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Patrington1a Posted 10 months ago
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What is the answer to avoid depression. I say keep occupied, talk to people, join clubs and societies.what do you think?????

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    • MagOireachtaigh 15th April 2021 at 4:38 pm

      Listen to music, whatever your taste. It can be soothing,
      &/or brighten your spirits if it’s a bit more upbeat.

    • MagOireachtaigh 15th April 2021 at 4:48 pm

      Keeping occupied is the key.
      During lockdown so far I’ve repaired the fridge door, repaired my walking boots.
      done some decorating & gardening. The cars have never been cleaned as often! I enjoy writing too. & this has continued to hold my interest. Having sold nearly 100 books so far and opened up a Private FB page to enable subscribers to interact with one another.
      I refer to these a mini wins as you get a sense of purpose, achievement & fulfilment.

      • Lee lee 13th November 2021 at 10:54 am

        I would love to b able to write as a child my imagination was amazing ,and could write a 4 page essay at school in an instant ,i seem to have lost that ability with age lol, i have looked on here at the creative writing course ,i am thinking of giving it a try , i love books

    • Free Ranger 17th April 2021 at 7:59 pm

      I have learned from experience to try and get outside whatever the weather. In doing so the exercise will help release endorphins and a change of scenery will stimulate your brain. You might even say hello or chat to someone you meet which might help a little. I agree music is also good for your soul. As much as you can try to create a routine of getting up in the morning, going outdoors, eating healthily, hydrating and going to bed at a regular time. There is helpful information on the Mind charity website and also “blurt it out” website. I know it’s a cliche but it will pass.. All of this has helped make a difference for me and I am no longer on medication.

    • Fluff 17th April 2021 at 8:09 pm

      Always have something going on. 🙂

    • Sean9667 17th April 2021 at 9:42 pm

      If you live in a small isolated community there are few groups or societies to join.
      If you have limited family and friends there can be no-one to talk to.
      Keeping occupied can often cost money, unless you’re talking about going walking…. On your own…
      It’s not always as easy as a few sound bytes.

      • Patrington1a 17th April 2021 at 10:00 pm

        Keeping occupied needn’t cost very much…..I’ve taken at least 10,000 pictures,cost,nothing, painted some flowers, cost nothing, visited 2 camera clubs, cost, nothing. Sent pics into net clubs cost 50 p a day…..dont look for excuses.i pulled my wife out of depression and anxiety. Cost, petrol money to sit on a bench at the coast.Shes well now!!!!

      • Patrington1a 19th April 2021 at 5:21 pm

        Disagree Sean. If a small community, there are clubs,society’s, even stuff at a church.There are crosswords, pen friends, and the almighty internet.im on a small community, I do everything but the church..plus a lot more, I paint, invent things, etc etc…..If you need help on any activity please let me know.Cheers.

      • Souldfriend 11th November 2021 at 3:41 pm

        Talking therapy is very useful , just having that support from a therapist or counsellor, also available online if living in a rural setting. Exercise, music are good but they do not cure loneliness which is often a root cause of depression.

    • Sean9667 17th April 2021 at 11:29 pm

      I think it might be very different if you’re not on your own.
      Also, this ” this worked for me, if you don’t do it it’s your fault”
      reaction doesn’t help anyone.
      Actually, I’m pretty sick and tired of people, from healthcare professionals to laymen, telling others how to mend their lives when they have no idea of their personal circumstances.
      And, I’m not looking for excuses, the people I work with find it genuinely difficult!
      Assumptions are a bitch!

      Only petrol money?
      So not, insurance, road tax, running costs? Just having the petrol money isn’t having transport, it’s not the same for everyone.

      • Englishman 1st November 2021 at 10:35 pm

        I agree with you Sean. A lot of rather trite “solutions”. For some, depression means not being able to do anything, think about anything, enjoy anything. Making any kind of effort is too much effort. I could go on.
        It’s not anywhere near as simple as implying “pull yourself together”.
        That’s just not helpful. It’s outdated. It’s insulting.

    • SelsdonLion 19th April 2021 at 5:32 pm

      I think it’s probably something like `being in control of your life` but unfortunately that’s not always possible. Having good friends helps.

      • Patrington1a 19th April 2021 at 5:39 pm

        Having good friends is the best thing anyone can have, You can have a tools Royce, a mansion and £5million in the bank but friends are worth much much more.

    • David67 5th September 2021 at 10:30 am

      Hi Patringtonla
      I go running 3 times a week and do yoga and draw, these things help me keep my sanity it takes my mind of things. I know not everyone can run, going for a walk and try 5-4-3-2-1 Coping Technique for Anxiety and depression to lift your mood think of other things
      5: Acknowledge FIVE things you see around you. …
      4: Acknowledge FOUR things you can touch around you. …
      3: Acknowledge THREE things you hear. …
      2: Acknowledge TWO things you can smell. …
      1: Acknowledge ONE thing you can taste.

    • Mad Ralph 5th September 2021 at 9:19 pm

      If only there was a magic bullet 😩 I’ve found certain things help for a while but sadly nothing works forever. Even with medication my moods are like a rollercoaster. I don’t know what mood I’m going to wake up in from one day to the next but it beats waking up Every Day depressed. (The meds really do take the edge off Patrington1a)

      • Patrington1a 5th September 2021 at 10:27 pm

        Hi, the magic bullet for my wifes depression was me. I looked after her,cared for her, cuddled her talked to her.Took 2 years caring and not giving in to her. She is back to normal what ever that is. She shops, she reads she even went on an aeroplane.oh and she nags and nags.anything better than her crying…if it helps you to to talk to someone I’m a good listener if you need one. Regards. Patrington1a.

      • David67 7th September 2021 at 10:02 am

        Counselling can help, helps you see things differently, there are some good services out there

    • Mad Ralph 5th September 2021 at 10:43 pm

      Brilliant, well done, I salute you sir. I’m not sure I’d be strong enough to help someone with depression even though I’ve experienced it myself. My partner has also done a great job, she’s stuck by me through thick and thin. I’m thankful for her every day but you’ve made me realise I need to show it more. Thank you.

      • Patrington1a 5th September 2021 at 10:50 pm

        Brilliant,,,,keeping occupied is one secret and showing interest in others is another secret….hobbies and interests are the way forward.mine are photography,magic tricks,painting and indoor bowls…. I advise anyone to get a hobby or interest. Get one and tell me about it..cheers.Patrington

    • Utterly bemused 7th September 2021 at 10:15 am

      I think that exercise is the key. Kept on running/cycling during the first lockdown and was fine but, during the second, lost all motivation and my mood nosedived.

    • Guy 9th September 2021 at 7:44 pm

      I agree, yesterday is history and can not change, today is the present for I can change my tomorrow. my Great Grandpa Widom still rings good for me. So I have plans for my tomorrow.

    • Sand 9th September 2021 at 7:58 pm

      That is a good idea, but I do not know if it always works, my daughter suffers from depression and she has lots of friends. It is better to go out and about and have lots of friends, she has days where she does not want to see anybody.

    • Nickie 10th September 2021 at 10:10 am

      Sit with the depressed or sad feeling, rather than suppress it, notice it acknowledge it be with it and let it flow through and out your body and breathe!

    • lindsay 10th September 2021 at 1:03 pm

      Yes I would agree with that and mindfulness, plus time in nature very therapeutic. But, if all else fails, anti-depressants really help. Contrary to popular belief they are not addictive.

      • Patrington1a 11th September 2021 at 8:16 am

        In my opinion pills do not help….keep healthy,occupied añd find a hobby. Or, talk to someone! I’m here if you need a chat.

        • lindsay 11th September 2021 at 8:26 am

          I think it very much depends on the cause. Modern anti-depressants just allow more serotonin to be reabsorbed, so if someone is low on it that will help. They are useful in the event that one feels unmotivated for self help. I know there are ways of increasing serotonin production via diet, exercise, etc and that is undoubtedly the long term best solution. But depression can be an isolating condition – I see no harm in a little help. The individual will be assessed prior to prescribing.

        • Patrington1a 11th September 2021 at 10:24 am

          My wife was depressed a few years ago, even suicidal !!!!. I care for her, l listened to her, I got her involved in activities so she had something to talk about….took 2 years but shes cured now!!!!

      • sea-and-sky 26th September 2021 at 3:51 pm

        Antidepressants dont help everyone and some people experience appalling withdrawals trying to come off.

    • KayM 11th September 2021 at 7:05 pm

      Interesting question and I don’t think you can “avoid” depression. It is something that you learn to live with and given time, professional support and sometimes medication it becomes easier to manage. This is of course assuming that you are in a place where you are able to recognise and take ownership of your feelings. Being made aware of my responsibilities of how I was feeling was a light bulb moment for me – once I acknowledged that the feeling I spoke of other people feeling we actually mine – I was empowered to take charge of them and make changes. Not everyone is in a place where they can do that. But we can all be kinder to ourselves and give ourselves some compassion when we are feeling low. Most of us are kinder to other people – including people we don’t know than we are to ourselves and that change to self-compassion is one of the most powerful for helping deal with and manage depression (in my opinion).

    • Jennyrockie 13th September 2021 at 6:32 pm

      I’ve not had depression since I had post-natal depression many years ago.
      Joining Rock Choir is a great help to many people-singing, meeting others, socialising etc.
      It’s been the best thing I have done in retirement. I absolutely LOVE it. There are lots of local groups and 30, 000 of us nationwide. I’ve made lots of friends and love the places we go to for performing and socialising. It’s one big family!
      Free taster sessions and no audutions-just turn up!! 🎵💕🎶

    • garyxjohnstone 14th September 2021 at 9:14 am

      We’ll done you! Knowing you are depressed and accepting it is a huge step. By definition it’s exhausting being depressed. It’s all the more exhausting if you worry and get depressed about being depressed. For me the first step was acceptance. That wasn’t always the case. When I accepted I was depressed, I could then start to deal with it in a caring and supportive way. If you’re a diabetic and lack insulin there are steps you take to maintain good health. It’s the same with depression. I lack Seratonin. So to manage that condition I do all I can to get good sleep. Lack of sleep is a big part of my depression. So I really limit the amount of coffee and tea I drink. One tea first thing and then decaf for the rest of the day. It’s a hard transition if you are a six coffees a day person as I was. But I swear by it. My sleep is transformed. Depression may still wake me up earlier than I would like but I no longer wake up three times a night and spend the time between 3 and 4 am staring into darkness. I make sure I get enough daylight. If I have to spend the whole day indoors working, I get outside for ten minutes every hour. I fit in a 1 hour walk outdoors every day. But I do it gently. I cycle gently to get places. I do yoga once a week. I do weights once a week. I have a spiritual practice every morning where, to keep it brief, I meditate and remind myself that ‘I am enough, I have enough, I do enough. I am perfect just as I am.’ One thing I have started to notice is that I really need to monitor and manage when I am not depressed. Because it’s all too easy to rush around to catch up on all sorts of tasks and desires that may have had to take a back seat. And to be completely honest, after 40 years of living with depression, having done 15 years of therapy, I finally decided enough was enough. I went to my GP and started medication. It’s the best thing I have ever done. I am lucky that the medication worked for me first time. Others have had problems finding the right tablet. I still have to manage my depression as I outline above, but the lows are much less low now. Gone are the days of utter lethargy when I felt ‘winded’, like I had been hit across the back with a spade. Good luck!!!

      • Patrington1a 14th September 2021 at 9:40 am

        A positive person, well done.i will never become depressed, I’m too busy. Find a book called ” bring out the magic of your mind” it will make you healthy and wealthy “

    • Chojo 14th September 2021 at 12:18 pm

      Depression cannot be avoided. It can be managed but if you don’t deal with the underlying issues that cause your depression then it will always be there waiting to pop up again. I’ve known people who had amazing lives great jobs great friends and family and they still took their own lives. Some people fight a war inside their heads everyday but to the outside world they’re happy people with The perfect life.
      My advice to anyone who suffers from depression or knows someone that does is be kind. Telling someone to go for a walk or get out more really doesn’t help if you don’t know what the person is dealing with. Be kind to yourself, know that you’re not broken there is a place in the world for everyone. People need to learn the difference between depression and sadness believe me I’m speaking from experience.

      • Patrington1a 14th September 2021 at 12:33 pm

        Nicely put chojo..that person does need to go for walk but with a friend,lover, husband or wife. If they listen and not interrupt that person breaking down I think it will help. It helped my wife!!!.Took 2 years but it worked..

    • Zappa 16th September 2021 at 5:46 pm

      The right medication, counselling and cognitive therapy. Personally I find it hard to socialize, but have interests such as running/cycling. Which gives me a routine

    • Mad Ralph 16th September 2021 at 7:00 pm

      Have you ever suffered from depression yourself Patrington1a?

      • Patrington1a 16th September 2021 at 7:33 pm

        To be honest no, I’m too busy and too positive for it to happen to me…It happened to my wife 8 years ago..I gave compassion and a lot of caring. Took 2 years but shes back as she was….

        • Mad Ralph 16th September 2021 at 7:47 pm

          Your a rare breed, big respect brother 👍

        • Patrington1a 16th September 2021 at 8:07 pm

          Thank you M R.please try a d find a book by Al Koran. It must be 50 years old now. It made me positive, strong and healthy…It 100% helped me in my sales job, my marriage and my life in general. I dont go to church, you make your own destiny..Think and be positive.think, I can do it, I will do it. Good luck to you a d be POSITIVE!!!!!

    • Mad Ralph 16th September 2021 at 8:40 pm

      I think you eed a ew keyboard, your letter “” is’t working. 😉

    • Solstice 17th September 2021 at 4:49 pm

      Dr Jordan Peterson’s “12 Rules For Life” Skip the foreword (which is not Dr Peterson) and read them. My own outlook has grown in leaps and bounds. Yes, I still have depressive bouts, but they are further apart and far less severe now.

    • JensW 23rd September 2021 at 8:38 am

      Have a daily gratitude practice. Every morning list either on paper or mentally what you are grateful for. Neuroscience proves this works as long as you do it daily.

    • Vervain 23rd September 2021 at 11:25 am

      For me my faith in God is a great help. Also walking my dog and going for walks by myself. I love reading and a good book is a great escape. I also enjoy cooking and listening to classic music.

    • Deleted User 5th October 2021 at 2:13 pm

      Five things I believe are sited by NHS are good diet, good exercise, contact with friends and loved ones, giving and Mindfulness. My son who was an army PT instructor had a colleague who said that if you spend half an hour Outdoors every day in the daylight a healthy person will not get depressed, not sure if it’s backed up with science but it might be right. I have a lived experience of depression, anti-depressive medication does not work with me. Hope this is helpful 🌈🙂

    • diains1622 31st October 2021 at 7:49 pm

      Dont get depressed………

      I’ll get my coat …… 🙁

    • Squatter315UK 14th November 2021 at 9:08 pm

      You’ve said most of what I would say, you could always consider volunteering opportunities like helping behind the till of your local charity shop etc.. Or maybe help the homeless or a food run charity. There’s plenty to do if you want to do it. Good luck with whatever you decide.

      • Patrington1a 14th November 2021 at 10:23 pm

        Thanks for the advice but I really am occupied now.. camera and bowling clubs. Magic , painting ,writing and photography.i had one or two stories on this site a few weeks back.Thanks any way.

    • dimitrybernic 13th January 2022 at 10:57 am

      depression is a change in the chemical balance in the brain, I don’t think that communicating with people will fix it. Except with a psychologist or a psychiatrist, that should definitely help. It is necessary for people to understand how serious this disease is, which can lead to the death of a person. I will not wish this on anyone, since my daughter ended depression a couple of years ago, which she had for several years in a row. She even went into psychosis, and it was very scary for me as a father. You can read for yourself what it is in the article What is human psychosis and how to recognize it on https://fherehab.com/learning/what-is-a-psychotic-break/. These are not toys at all, so go straight to the doctor and don’t joke with it

    • Patrington1a 13th January 2022 at 5:44 pm

      I agree with you but what do you do about it…….sit by yourself or talk with others……..There are many lonely people at our camera club. They mainly come to talk to other members rather than sit in house all alone.