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Robert K Posted 2 months ago
Has television dumbed down over the years?

It might just be my perception, but I really think it has. As a random example on BBC1:
7pm One Show
7.30pm Question of Sport (new version)
8pm Eastenders

While accepting the soap opera has been around a long time these programs are of dire quality, in my opinion. I think most people want the bar raised.

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    • Mad Ralph 14th October 2021 at 4:39 pm

      I don’t know how they’ve managed to get away with charging a license fee for all these years. Even the mafia would be proud of that racket.

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      • Moya 14th October 2021 at 8:31 pm

        Some programmes may not be to your liking, some are not to mine either but they please a lot of people. They produce and consistently produce superb drama, documentaries, news, some to an exceptional standard. I’m talking not only of television but of radio which opens worlds of wonder. There is so much to learn, so much to gain. The choice is immense day after day. It may not always be to our taste but we have all become so used to the constant stream of riches that we have become blase. The licence is worth every penny

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      • Anonymous User (no longer active) 15th October 2021 at 7:59 am

        And what’s worse is the BBC is also a commercial business (BBC Worldwide), should be one or the other. Commercial or public. And since ruining Dr Who I’m inclined to think they should be shut down

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    • Alexandra 2013 14th October 2021 at 5:12 pm

      Prefer Netflix

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    • Alexandra 2013 14th October 2021 at 5:17 pm

      Yep but us little peeps won’t make a difference to the big boys- money speaks volumes

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    • loislane 14th October 2021 at 5:57 pm

      If you do not watch soaps, fine, but don’t dismiss them, they raise awareness all the time of different social aspects, and mostly do it well. Some things could be done better I agree.
      Yes I do think a lot has been dumbed down, catering for more idiots who need nannying through life.
      Don’t get me started on love island dross and anything like it.

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      • Shirlann 15th October 2021 at 8:20 am

        Stopped watching soaps when went too far out reality 🤔and story lines became too long 😏

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      • Brown sugar 15th October 2021 at 5:21 pm

        I don’t watch any soaps but i do agree, they cover difficult subjects and they reach lots of different age groups. Soaps also have the ability to reach the youngsters, something that many of us parents cannot. I haven’t watched a soap for well over 20 years, but they have their place on our tv’s.

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      • Pennypitstop 17th October 2021 at 12:19 pm

        I havent had a TV for years now but i totally agree with you about soaps they do raise awareness and give people the knowledge on how to get help and deal with things.

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    • Robert K 14th October 2021 at 6:43 pm

      Fair point about the soaps Lois – it’s just whenever I see a trailer it always seems shouty and depressing.

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      • Shirlann 15th October 2021 at 8:21 am

        Talking about Eastenders🤔😁

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      • loislane 15th October 2021 at 12:19 pm

        It really isn’t all doom and gloom, lots of very funny moments, one liners, put downs in a humorous way. Tackles real life from the perspective of people who have gone through losing a child, miscarriage, etc and these have been portrayed with sensitivity.
        There are some issues with a recent storyline which I’m not happy with, I won’t go into it because of course, I’ll be reported and censored, it was badly acted, badly written.

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        • Catwoman 17th October 2021 at 12:52 pm

          Stopped watching EastEnders when Michelle was told the baby she was carrying had spina bifida and they told her to have an abortion which she did. Missed opportunity to educate the public on disability there 🤔😐
          No I’m not against abortion by the way I just think there could have been a better storyline

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    • Vixster 14th October 2021 at 8:01 pm

      I think the tv licence is really good value. You could pay that amount in one month with sky or virgin. I record virtually everything I want to watch so that there is always something to watch when I want it.
      I find plenty to watch on the terrestrial channels although clearly they are trying to cater for everyone and I have to put up with sport, Victorian dramas, war films etc.

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    • Terry75 14th October 2021 at 9:14 pm

      The licence fee is a rip off. As for the “soaps” what a load of garbage and Eastenders is enough to drive the depressed over the edge. Bring back Alf Garnett and lets have some humour on TV. He was a racist, sexist etc opinionated bigot who always “quite rightly” got shot down but was funny.

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    • Kenton 14th October 2021 at 9:24 pm

      New question of Sport a joke, abysmal. 🧑‍🏫

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    • Kenton 14th October 2021 at 9:31 pm

      I would gladly ditch BBC and just watch Sky. The BBC news is vetted before it is broadcast and sanitised. 🧑‍🏫

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      • Anonymous User (no longer active) 15th October 2021 at 7:56 am

        And run by Associated Press. I worked for the BBC World Service some years ago and expressed concerns about changes to the news department. The directors of AP phoned my manager and said “either you do something about him or we will”. Suffice to say I don’t work there any more.

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    • Chojo 15th October 2021 at 5:57 am

      I don’t think TV is to blame as much as the people. If they keep watching all these crappy shows and pushing the rating up then the tv companies will just keep making more of them. Reality tv is so much cheaper for them to produce as there’s no shortage of idiots willing to be in them.

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    • Anonymous User (no longer active) 15th October 2021 at 7:55 am

      Definitely. Where are programs like Horizon and World in Action?

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    • Shirlann 15th October 2021 at 8:23 am

      Have so many channels but nothing much to watch except repeats 🤔very occasionally something good comes up😁

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    • Julie R 15th October 2021 at 4:57 pm

      Yes, there is some stuff out there that I think is rubbish, but each to their own.
      I like everything from documentaries through to Gogglebox!!
      There has to be choice and something for everyone.

      I do not agree with the licence fee being so high though – ditch the overpaid presenters!!
      Totally agree with the other poster that BBC news is vetted, sanitised and, dare I say, left wing biased.

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    • AdLsA 15th October 2021 at 5:18 pm

      Haven’t done the TV thing for around 20 years.

      As I recall there used to be a few shows to my taste, but the vast majority of programming wasn’t. Doubt whether this state of affairs has altered since.

      The time spent engaged in it can be better used doing other things.

      And then there’s the license. It’d be like paying car tax twice.

      Bugger off Beeb!

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    • Brighton Belle 15th October 2021 at 6:31 pm

      I watch iplayer as ordinary TV rubbish plus I’m not a soap fan……

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    • Pennypitstop 17th October 2021 at 12:27 pm

      YOU DO NOT NEED A TV LICENCE if you only watch Netflix or other streaming services, they are cheap and Netflix can also be shared with another household when you give them the log in details so you can share the cost.

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    • Pennypitstop 17th October 2021 at 12:34 pm

      THE TV LICENCE SHOULD BE CALLED THE BBC LICENCE AND SHOULD BE ON SUBSCRIPTION. It is so very very wrong that you do not have the choice and are forced with threats to buy a licence even if you never ever ever watch BBC. It is like being forced to pay for bus fares, or local gym, or any other service in your area that you never use !!!!. There are millions of people who want TV but cannot afford the licence fee !. It is a racket !

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    • Robert K 17th October 2021 at 12:35 pm

      You are allowed to share within the same household but I don’t think you can outside that household. However I am not certain of that – just my understanding.

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      • Pennypitstop 17th October 2021 at 1:16 pm

        No you are mistaken, you can share with upto 5 different people, my sister shares with her son he is in London she is in Lincolnshire, we share with the mother in law and dont live together. I think Netflix are thinking about stopping this but for now you can do it. Also we had Disney plus and you can share that too.

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    • Reverend Nick 17th October 2021 at 2:42 pm

      The BBC always say they get an equal number of complaints that they are either too left wing or too right wing and therefore they must be doing what they do more or less right. I disagree: it just means they’ve equally annoyed and irritated two lots of people.

      As regards the BBC showing left wing bias, it’s a bit of a spurious claim when you consider that the BBC Chairman, Richard Sharp has donated £400,000 to the Conservative party since 2001 (using his own money,{he’s a former Goldman Sachs banker} not the licence payers). The keynote political journalists, Laura Kunnessburg and Nick Robinson make no secret of being very dismissive of socialist MPs. Andrew Neil (before he left for GB tv) was quite open about being a supporter of the conservatives. Though to give him his due, I am sure he would have asked some hard questions of the Prime Minister in the 2019 election programmes – possibly why the latter was too scared to appear.
      There is a left-wing presence (though not as much as there used to be) in satirical programmes – but this is presented as “entertainment” rather than serious news.

      I doubt we’ll see the licence fee disappear – but it would make more sense if it were lowered to around £80 a year the same as Amazon Prime. It would also make sense for the BBC to be less bloated – drop all the local radio stations, for instance – the commercial rivals do just as good a job, perhaps better in some cases.

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    • Cheers on toast 17th October 2021 at 8:39 pm

      Definitely dumbed down i hate all the celebrity off on their trips sort of programmes.
      Any new idea that seems to have a bit of success is suddenly copied on most channels with varying results.
      Current top of my smash the screen list : Celeb Dancing, married at first sight 🙄, celebrity catchphrase, Martin and Romans weekend best 😮🏃‍♂️

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    • OutdoorPete 19th October 2021 at 5:19 pm

      I think it has. It’s full of hysterical shouting and people talking over each other. The ‘ can I have a go’ feature as presenters attempt half heartedly the task which people make a living from is nauseating.
      Just an opinion!

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