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Vixster Posted 4 months ago
£4b of fraud, £7b of incompetent IT systems……

How on earth anyone can think this gov is financially competent beats me or that no one else could do a better job!

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    • backofbeyond 26th January 2022 at 12:09 pm

      I think it was alway thus but IT technology is peculiarly susceptible to incompetence and fraud as the end product often doesn’t have any tangible existence (software for example). There’s nothing to hold in your hand and say ‘that’s it, it works’. At least with an (eg) aircraft, if it doesn’t take off or crashes there’s a trail of incompetence to follow. With software ‘bugs’ often get passed off as ‘features’, and if commercial companies struggle to get it right (Microsoft) what hope is there for government projects run by civil servants and politicians.

      • Vixster 26th January 2022 at 1:05 pm

        Some civil servants are IT specialists seemingly but no doubt expensive consultants were used anyway.

        • Daisychain 27th January 2022 at 11:00 am

          I remember a change in IT systems in the Dept of Employment that was. The new system didn’t work and made everyone’s life a misery, staff and the unemployed alike. It took at least two years to fix!

        • Vixster 27th January 2022 at 11:28 am

          Yes it’s not only the gov unfortunately. Remember those poor postmasters some of whom were sent to jail for fraud when all along it was the IT system. There really does need to be more governance of user application of new systems and something in the contract that forces the IT company to fix things quickly.

        • Daisychain 27th January 2022 at 4:31 pm

          Agree with you totally. I’m also very concerned about listening devices in our homes. It’s so like 1984. I’m sure we don’t know the half of it.☹️

        • Vixster 27th January 2022 at 4:47 pm

          I wouldn’t have Alexa, camera door bells or anything like that – it seems to me that data equals control because we can’t trust the IT bods who put this stuff together. Not that it’s necessarily malicious but because they never think through the consequences sufficiently and certainly not from a female perspective.

        • Daisychain 27th January 2022 at 9:27 pm

          All this technology relies on internet and electricity. After storm Arwen earlier this year I would hate to be reliant on this to operate all my stuff. When it goes wrong where do you go from there? Too much reliance on technology may not be such a good thing.

    • Spiritual Guy 26th January 2022 at 12:21 pm

      And how much was spent on track and trace, and to enforce the rules while they happily partied away with their “one rule for us and s*d the rest”

    • Daisychain 26th January 2022 at 1:15 pm

      It’s a Cabaret – Money, money, money …….

      • Vixster 26th January 2022 at 2:49 pm

        Yes it is that tho not so funny for us in that rich man’s world!

        • Reverend Nick 26th January 2022 at 7:09 pm

          As you probably already know, T&T turns out to be a glorified spreadsheet that is nigh impossible to keep up to date. How many billions did it cost? Serco really ought to be made to pay it back as their product is not fit for purpose.

    • Tambos57 26th January 2022 at 3:27 pm

      Wouldn’t trust any party/politician.

      Ironic how China was the origin of covid and yet these comedians buy the lateral flow and ppe from china- you couldn’t write it.

      The fraud just shows how we’ve been caught with our pants down.

      I think the fraud and cost/implications will just provide the powers that be with more justification for some form of ID. That is if they can make it secure enough.

    • Vixster 26th January 2022 at 4:23 pm

      All they had to do was check with companies house that they actually existed.

    • Reverend Nick 27th January 2022 at 10:02 am

      Here’s an interesting IT related thing – yesterday I had to go to the charity commission section on the You Gov website. In order to get to the page to upload some annual returns, I had to turn off my ad blockers. Half an hour later I put ‘em back on again – but when I next visited You Tube I was deluged with clips about how poor Boris is hard done to and how the media is against him. Haven’t had anything like this over the course of the party-gate scandal. So it must be sheer coincidence that they all came at once after visiting You Gov!

    • Vixster 27th January 2022 at 10:24 am

      Must be! Glad I don’t watch YouTube much if they deluge you with Tory party propaganda!